OPRAH: What did you mean when you wrote in Stillness Speaks, “Look at a tree, a flower, a plant. How still they are, how deeply rooted in Being. Allow nature to teach you stillness”?
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ECKHART: When you watch a tree, just be there as the aware presence perceives the tree. Nature is very helpful for people who want to connect with the stillness. Man-made things generate more thinking because they are made through thinking. Go to nature. Eventually you can sustain the state of stillness even in the midst of a city. I enjoy walking along busy streets with infernal noise and people rushing about and feeling the deep sense of stillness in the background.
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OPRAH: It’s like being in the world, but not of it.
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ECKHART: That’s exactly what it is.
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OPRAH: You’ve said that spirituality has nothing to do with what you believe but everything to do with your state of consciousness.
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ECKHART: It’s the stillness that’s the spiritual dimension.
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OPRAH: And beliefs are not spiritual?
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ECKHART: No, because beliefs are thoughts. Thought in itself is not spiritual, though it can sometimes be helpful because it can be a pointer. If we say, “Find the stillness that’s already inside you,” that’s a thought, but the thought is pointing beyond itself.
Hela intervjun finns här. Intressant om hur man kan finna lite lugn och ro bara genom att vara här och nu.
torsdag, november 06, 2008
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